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[saintg2005]

Once I get my trans swapped in June I'm going to start having a motor built by Karl at Massive Speed System in Springfield, IL. I want the get the crower stroker kit, ported and polished head,forged rods, valvesprings, retainers, pistons. Any suggestions. I want lower compression because I want to run a high boost turbo later. Let me know. Thanks

[sc0tty8]

Crower stroker=4300$-ish, does not include milling/machinging of your block, or, balancing.

Ported and polished head, 600$ later on a stock head...

forged rods, valve springs, pistons etc, depending on what you go with, anywhere from 700-ish to 2k.

The stroker, is not going to add a lot of power for you, forced induciton or not, its not worth the money at all, unless you got deep pockets.

The head? Buy a ford racing piece. Comes with springs/larger valves out of the box, about 800$ish and will outflow any ported head, or, about any other head out there. Buy this head.

Forged rods etc..there are many ways to look at this. You could go cgi block, cosworth rods, cosworth pistons, but, thats almost 2k in parts, still needs to be assembled, and, I would get it balanced. Focussport has a sale on the cgi block and rods right now. Shit is not cheap.

Cams, you don't need a high lift cam for forced induciton, I would check out the zex cams or maybe the ford racing #2 cam, crower stage 1, or, crane 0012's. The crane 0012's are pretty much a ford racing #2 cam.

You drop your compression ratio, to add boost, to make power? you can have high compression, and, some boost, and make power also. Lower compression/high boost suffers from shock load, this is hard on your bottom end of the motor once you hit full boost.

What I am planning on doing, if money allows, is, stock head, the cams I got now, new pistons, shave head to bump compression, svt intake mani, new rods, arp fasteners, vortech tuner kit, larger injectors, adjustable timing gears, and, a tune to run on 92 octane. Maybe a tune for e85, I need to crunch some numbers and see if it would be worth it.

e85 is a high octane fuel, but, it does not contain the BTU's that petro fuels contain, so, it takes more to run your car, but, being that it is higher octane, you have a higher margin to work with.

BTW, if you say ethonal is bad for your motor, in MN ALL passenger car fuel contains 10% ethonal, and, will soon be jumping to 20%, and, this includes premium. I am not sure about race fuel.

[Louis Zerr]

Yeah, i have Eagle rods, JE 9:1 pistons and a stock head. I had the head (formerly on Nils' car) reworked, just a valve job and everything installed and balanced. grand total for that was about $2500. Josh, Justin, Davis and I pulled the engine and tranny and also reinstalled everything. It held well over 20 PSI on the dyno (actual figure closer to 30 PSI but boost gauge only goes to 20).

[sc0tty8]

IMO, you should get your hands on a supercharger kit, like the jackson racing or the powerworks kit, if your car can idle now w/o your chip with them cams you should be fine, and, with some of the work you have done already, it should make more then what they are rated.

JRSC=3k-170-ish hp
PWSC=3.8k-220ish hp, and, intercooled.

You won't be able to run your chip anymore though.

[saintg2005]

Boost Factory said they would hook me up with a Gude Turbo, intercooler, custom 3" intercooler piping, and install for like 2800 or something so I would really like to do that first or just do the stock head pistons rods valves and retainers and valvesprings or something and then that way I can run 25 or 30 psi.

[98gsxltd]

dont ever buy a gude product they have the worst fitment ever, also you can buy a fully built focus power stroker for a lot less than what youre looking at spending.

[focinite]

man with that kinda money do the v6 or v8 swap, no replacement for deplacement

[sc0tty8]

drop in a tbird sc 3.8 motor. 220hp, 315 tq, 3.27's and some slicks, and, your nuts will suck up into your butt hole.

[saintg2005]

I personally like the naturally aspired route. Its a greddy T3 not gude