Page 1 of 2

My car won't start

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:15 pm
by FOCI
I just finished my turbo install and now the car won't start. We double checked everything and can't find anyting unplugged except the mafs. Would no maf stop the car from starting? I have a fuel pressure guage on the end of my fuel rail that doesn't move when we turn the key. Any ideas would be nice. I dn't have any vacume/boost lines from the turbo or wastegate ran could that be it and if so will somebody show me where they go?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:59 am
by CleanZX3
What did you install? Just the kit, or maf/injectors too? I dont think it starts with the maf unplugged, but i cant remember for sure.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:10 am
by umdivx
nope the car wont start with the maf unplugged. Also what injectors do you have install? becuase with a MAF that is not calibrated for the injectors your car may or maynot start and even if it does it will run like shit.

- Josh

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:40 am
by trahma
The car will start with the maf unplugged, it runs in its own limp mode with it unplugged. The maf also doesn't necessarily have to be calibrated with the injectors, I'm running the stock maf on my car with #42 injectors.

If you're turning the key and not getting any fuel pressure I'd check the fuel cutoff switch in the passenger side door. When you turn the key is anything else turning on? i.e. radio, etc. I'm assuming the car doesn't try to turn over at all.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:01 am
by Louis Zerr
does it turn over? define won't start. Did you unplug the crank position sensor? or the cam position sensor? either one of those will cause it to turn over and not start if they are unplugged. Oh and the crank position sensor is in the front lower on the engine side of the bell housing kind of where you can't see it. <--- i've done that one and it did everything right except start

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:56 am
by umdivx
trahma wrote: The car will start with the maf unplugged, it runs in its own limp mode with it unplugged. The maf also doesn't necessarily have to be calibrated with the injectors, I'm running the stock maf on my car with #42 injectors.


Yes but your running a piggy back chip, to adjust/compensate for that difference. I am assuming FOCI doesnt have a chip so thats why I said that.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:32 pm
by trahma
umdivx wrote:
trahma wrote:The car will start with the maf unplugged, it runs in its own limp mode with it unplugged. The maf also doesn't necessarily have to be calibrated with the injectors, I'm running the stock maf on my car with #42 injectors.


Yes but your running a piggy back chip, to adjust/compensate for that difference. I am assuming FOCI doesnt have a chip so thats why I said that.


since he's going to be running a turbo, he's going to need a tune regardless.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:04 pm
by umdivx
trahma wrote:
umdivx wrote:
trahma wrote:The car will start with the maf unplugged, it runs in its own limp mode with it unplugged. The maf also doesn't necessarily have to be calibrated with the injectors, I'm running the stock maf on my car with #42 injectors.


Yes but your running a piggy back chip, to adjust/compensate for that difference. I am assuming FOCI doesnt have a chip so thats why I said that.


since he's going to be running a turbo, he's going to need a tune regardless.



This I know, but he's just talking about getting the damn this started, not running laps around your ass just yet ;)

- Josh

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:44 pm
by trahma
umdivx wrote:
trahma wrote:
umdivx wrote:

Yes but your running a piggy back chip, to adjust/compensate for that difference. I am assuming FOCI doesnt have a chip so thats why I said that.


since he's going to be running a turbo, he's going to need a tune regardless.



This I know, but he's just talking about getting the damn this started, not running laps around your ass just yet ;)


He's not going to need to calibrate the maf to get it started.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:00 pm
by FOCI
It will turn over but it won't start. I'm going next friday to hitech for tunning so I got to get it running befor then. I'll try the fuel cut off too. Also does anybody know who sells egr block-off plates?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:02 pm
by FOCI
the radio and guages do work.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:22 pm
by trahma
FOCI wrote: It will turn over but it won't start. I'm going next friday to hitech for tunning so I got to get it running befor then. I'll try the fuel cut off too. Also does anybody know who sells egr block-off plates?


to tap on to the intake manifold i used the cover for the right side of the fuel rail. On the header I just bent the tube and crimped it.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:10 pm
by FOCI
how about the vacum lines on the wastegate, turbo, and bov? I don't have a boost controller should I get one?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:52 pm
by umdivx
FOCI wrote: how about the vacum lines on the wastegate, turbo, and bov? I don't have a boost controller should I get one?


Um.... Yea with out a Boost controller you will over boost and blow the fuck out of your enigne. but that right now has nothing to do with your car not starting.

- Josh

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:09 pm
by FOCI
Now I've got exhaust coming out my tb! What could cause that? Could we have put a cam in the wrong way?