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Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:55 am
by focinite
WASaZX3pos wrote:
focinite wrote:Lost power and then blew the ignition fuse? Sounds like a shorted coil. WCS possible pcm. What engine? I had a wire pull out of my coil harness once...took about four hours to figure that one out. :lol: check your bases....air fuel spark compression then go from there 8)
Genius.
Now get some cams with good over lap and you dont need egr. I have found its the simplest dumb thing that causes the biggest problems.....in life...
No matter the problem its some ting dum.
Mqke them wires shorter and rout them away from the egr :lol:

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:37 pm
by WASaZX3pos
focinite wrote:
WASaZX3pos wrote:
focinite wrote:Lost power and then blew the ignition fuse? Sounds like a shorted coil. WCS possible pcm. What engine? I had a wire pull out of my coil harness once...took about four hours to figure that one out. :lol: check your bases....air fuel spark compression then go from there 8)
Genius.
Now get some cams with good over lap and you dont need egr. I have found its the simplest dumb thing that causes the biggest problems.....in life...
No matter the problem its some ting dum.
Mqke them wires shorter and rout them away from the egr :lol:
Thats the plan, with the wires anyway. Cams are just so spendy. I think it will be plenty fun without them also.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:25 pm
by WASaZX3pos
The ecu was put in at the dealer, but they couldn't get into it to match my keys to it. Anyone know a dealer that specializes in this, or would know more? Steve, have a few questions for you too. Why would they need to take the key codes out of the old ecu, then put them back in when they put the stock computer back in? Thats after they tried to use the pw comp. I just dont want to pay for nothing.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:07 am
by FocusMech.73155
EDIT:Did you have a different PCM installed then they re-installed the orgional one? If so when you remove a module and perform program module installation to a new module, it removed the VIN from the module you have removed. They would then have to do a program module installation to the orgional module if they were to re-install it

PATS is stored to the instrument cluster, not the PCM. If they re-installed the orgional PCM they shouldn't have had to do anything with the keys. The only thing they might have had to do is perform a perameter reset which clears any PATS (theft) codes in the modules. There could be issues with the PATS ring or wiring or the instrument cluster itself

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:59 pm
by WASaZX3pos
FocusMech.73155 wrote:EDIT:Did you have a different PCM installed then they re-installed the orgional one? If so when you remove a module and perform program module installation to a new module, it removed the VIN from the module you have removed. They would then have to do a program module installation to the orgional module if they were to re-install it

PATS is stored to the instrument cluster, not the PCM. If they re-installed the orgional PCM they shouldn't have had to do anything with the keys. The only thing they might have had to do is perform a perameter reset which clears any PATS (theft) codes in the modules. There could be issues with the PATS ring or wiring or the instrument cluster itself
Yes I guess that makes sense. Had them try to put the new unmatched pwsc tuned comp into the car to match the pats keys to it, so I didn't have to tune the car. Should I ask them to try that proceedure? Or could I just slap it in and get the pats code from the dealership by the vin off the ecu, then have them code the keys?

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:32 pm
by Steve@Tasca
The keys aren't coded to the car or PCM, the car/PCM is programmed to recognize the keys. They should be able to slap in the tuned PCM and program it to recognize your keys.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:05 pm
by WASaZX3pos
Steve, know anyone with expertise in doing that? I just want it done. It is at Hayford.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:49 am
by Steve@Tasca
As far as I know any dealership should be able to manage it, there's nothing magical about it.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:21 am
by SMOKEDFSVT
maybe we should exercise my truck and trailer and just bring it to auto nation and see what they can do with it? lol

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:38 am
by Steve@Tasca
SMOKEDFSVT wrote:maybe we should exercise my truck and trailer and just bring it to auto nation and see what they can do with it? lol
I'm pretty sure we have a guy that could get it done. 8)

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:06 am
by WASaZX3pos
SMOKEDFSVT wrote:maybe we should exercise my truck and trailer and just bring it to auto nation and see what they can do with it? lol
I don't have any time to do that this weekend. Leaving for Mankato tomorrow am. Could you do it?

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:08 am
by SMOKEDFSVT
get them to leave the keys locked in it and i think i could figure it out.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:37 pm
by FocusMech.73155
Just an FYI.....if Im the guy Steve is refering to.......I have Jury duty next week so I will not be around. Either way, you don't need to be a engineer to figure a way to get a PCM to function in a car.

Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:05 pm
by Steve@Tasca
I just got a jury duty notice as well, I sent in the form to get out of it, no way I can afford the time off.



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Re: Driving to dealership...

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:27 pm
by FocusMech.73155
FORDSVTPARTS wrote:I just got a jury duty notice as well, I sent in the form to get out of it, no way I can afford the time off.



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tousley (autonation ford) pays you for your jury duty. I believe it is the same as your vacation pay