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M112 Zetec?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:04 pm
by iminhell
So I got this here blower for free. I feel the SVT, M60, is just too small and pathetic; 199whp and all. So how can I bolt this badmammajamma on the mighty Focus?
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:37 pm
by focinite
Find a jackson mani or make one. Possibly have to find a input housing to locate the pully. A tune a maf and injectors. Oh belts and brakets and a crank pulley. But you are going to hatebhaving more than what that chassis can put to the ground from a deqd stop..... wheellllllll spn....whhheeeellllll spiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnn.... second gear......wheeleellllleeeellll sppppppiiiiinnnnnnn rev limiter...... third gear ...... heeeeeeellllllll spinnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:13 am
by iminhell
Me being eccentric/bat-shit crazy aside,
I can't remember how to read S/C maps.
Flow map for a 112:
Delta Temp. map:
HP to drive the S/C:
Eaton says the 112 comes from how much air it moves with 1 rotation.
So basically the S/C is equal (92%) to total engine displacement.
That means I need to slow it down quite a bit as in half speed. Something like 4,000 rotor rpm would be around 7,000 engine rpm. Unless I'd want to make oodles of boost, which being high compression I don't think is a good idea.
But then this whole thought process isn't a good idea.
Just kinda talking so I don't forget ...
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:07 pm
by focinite
Dont be a pussy!!!!! Put a six inch pulley on it and have fun.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:47 am
by iminhell
Working on it.
Just figuring out the math first so I have some type of starting point.
Step 2 is making it'll physically fit and finding a good orientation, belt routing, etc.
Step 3 is having all the parts I think I'll need made, bracket for alternator, manifold flange, blower base, intake runners ...
I figure cams are expensive, so that's the budget I set for myself. If I can get it done for ~$1,500 or less, I'm ahead of the curve.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:14 pm
by Patalrob
Cams are super expensive for the SVT.. Blank's are pricey then getting them ground down.. More than I was looking to spend but that was also 4-5 yrs ago. Probably done nothing but go up in price.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:59 pm
by focinite
The thing is iminhell i do beliv has the vtc delete. That way he can run a zetec cam.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:49 am
by iminhell
VCT delete and reground SVT cams actually (just a tad bigger than stock grind).
Brandon, the $1,500 is my budget to get the S/C up and running, not cams.
I know I said I'd never go boost but ...
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:21 am
by focinite
iminhell wrote:VCT delete and reground SVT cams actually (just a tad bigger than stock grind).
Brandon, the $1,500 is my budget to get the S/C up and running, not cams.
I know I said I'd never go boost but ...
Its the easiest way. Plus a roots style is gonna give you good throttle response and will give you that pissed off makqita sound rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnah.............rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhnnnnnn.......eeeewwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww
thats first second and third.
if i could i would but id rather have more fun with more cubes.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:03 pm
by iminhell
Actually juice is cheaper/easier short term. Which is the alternative ... something like a 150 shot.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:04 am
by focinite
iminhell wrote:Actually juice is cheaper/easier short term. Which is the alternative ... something like a 150 shot.
But you can run out of spray. And take in the cost of filling over a year. I still think boost is more cost effective. Either way it should put a smile on ones face.
Re: M112 Zetec?
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:53 pm
by iminhell
Have to remember that I'm not really looking for something, added power, for daily use. Only racing and the occasional S&G use.
But a big shot, 150'ish, does go pretty quickly.