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2004 with 2.3
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:37 am
by Doc
I'm looking at a 2004 Focus with a 2.3 in it. I know the 2.0 dual overhaed cam is a good motor, but don't know anything about the 2.3. Are they reliable? Milage any differant than the 2.0? Any input would be good.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:41 pm
by Steve@Tasca
It's just a slightly larger version of the 2.0, as reliable as any other Duratec.
The only semi common issue I'm aware of is oil consumption but it's not an epidemic or anything.
-Steve
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:26 pm
by Pappy
That's a rare car......
I'd love to have an 04 2.3 car.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:30 pm
by Steve@Tasca
I had one, traded it in with 6000 miles on it for my (then) 42,000 mile SVT.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:53 am
by harold
I was looking for one of those when I was shopping for my car. Then I found one a month after I settled on the one I got.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:01 am
by Steve@Tasca
The 2004 2.3 cars were also PZEV cars and had really nice gearing, you could cruise smoothly and easily at 90mph all day with those things.
Try that in an SVT and you'll vibrate the fillings out of your teeth.
-Steve
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:50 am
by focinite
FORDSVTPARTS wrote:The 2004 2.3 cars were also PZEV cars and had really nice gearing, you could cruise smoothly and easily at 90mph all day with those things.
Try that in an SVT and you'll vibrate the fillings out of your teeth.
-Steve
? . Mine seems fairly smooth at any speed. The only issue is my hockey puck motor mount sends .......sum........nvh into the cab. I would look into that sir, it should feel nice and composed at any speed.
I have seen only random issues with focuses...er...foci. just springs and the little ground at the batt terminal. The rear shocks are junk from the git go. The svt kit fixes that up and gives a great ride. I dont see too mqny loose front end parts just bent ones, such a tiny outer tie rod end and they dont go bad. The focus is the shit when it comes to small cars. Oh wait, intake valves seem fairly common on the early duratecs. Cylinder one seems the most common. Valve ticking. Tic tic tic tic tic tic tic.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:54 am
by Steve@Tasca
focinite wrote:FORDSVTPARTS wrote:The 2004 2.3 cars were also PZEV cars and had really nice gearing, you could cruise smoothly and easily at 90mph all day with those things.
Try that in an SVT and you'll vibrate the fillings out of your teeth.
-Steve
? . Mine seems fairly smooth at any speed. The only issue is my hockey puck motor mount sends .......sum........nvh into the cab. I would look into that sir, it should feel nice and composed at any speed.
I have seen only random issues with focuses...er...foci. just springs and the little ground at the batt terminal. The rear shocks are junk from the git go. The svt kit fixes that up and gives a great ride. I dont see too mqny loose front end parts just bent ones, such a tiny outer tie rod end and they dont go bad. The focus is the shit when it comes to small cars. Oh wait, intake valves seem fairly common on the early duratecs. Cylinder one seems the most common. Valve ticking. Tic tic tic tic tic tic tic.
I'm talking about engine vibration and high revs, you can't tell me an SVT is silky smooth running at a steady 4000 rpm. It's a buzz bomb and you know it.
A 2.3 PZEV Duratec on the other hand runs much lower revs at the same speeds due to gearing and it's smoother overall due to the balance shaft.
There is simply no comparison.
I don't think there's anything at all wrong woth mine, it's strong and feels very solid but it's wound up pretty tight on the freeway at speeds over 80.
-Steve
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:01 pm
by Doc
Thanks for the input (about the 2.3). I did win the bid today, it's only got 49,000 miles on it so hopefully it's in good condition.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:02 am
by focinite
FORDSVTPARTS wrote:focinite wrote:FORDSVTPARTS wrote:The 2004 2.3 cars were also PZEV cars and had really nice gearing, you could cruise smoothly and easily at 90mph all day with those things.
Try that in an SVT and you'll vibrate the fillings out of your teeth.
-Steve
? . Mine seems fairly smooth at any speed. The only issue is my hockey puck motor mount sends .......sum........nvh into the cab. I would look into that sir, it should feel nice and composed at any speed.
I have seen only random issues with focuses...er...foci. just springs and the little ground at the batt terminal. The rear shocks are junk from the git go. The svt kit fixes that up and gives a great ride. I dont see too mqny loose front end parts just bent ones, such a tiny outer tie rod end and they dont go bad. The focus is the shit when it comes to small cars. Oh wait, intake valves seem fairly common on the early duratecs. Cylinder one seems the most common. Valve ticking. Tic tic tic tic tic tic tic.
I'm talking about engine vibration and high revs, you can't tell me an SVT is silky smooth running at a steady 4000 rpm. It's a buzz bomb and you know it.
A 2.3 PZEV Duratec on the other hand runs much lower revs at the same speeds due to gearing and it's smoother overall due to the balance shaft.
-Steve
one, stop yelling at me, it makes me feel bad. And B, i missunderstude you im sorry. My car has a very good nvh canceling system......twenty six hundred watts of anti road noise technology.

Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:20 am
by Steve@Tasca
That wasn't yelling,
THIS WOULD BE YELLING 
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:39 am
by focinite
FORDSVTPARTS wrote:That wasn't yelling,
THIS WOULD BE YELLING 
I dont like it when mommy and daddy talk loud at each other! At lest they aint as bad as the zx2s, i have watched a dash blurr it was shaking so hard. And thats at idle!!!
asside from the thread jackin, doc i hope your find turns out good. For the most part if it was a maintaned car it should be qlright.
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:35 pm
by Doc
I took a couple minutes today and fired it up, sounds nice. I couldn't help but notice on the surface it looks like an 05 up 2.0. So, what's the main diffrance between this 2.3 and an 05 up 2.0? Does this 2.3 take the same air filter as the 05- 07?
Re: 2004 with 2.3
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:57 pm
by Patalrob
The head is what makes up for the .3 liter. The rest is the same.