Minnesota Focus Owners Club

You can get a front mount PT cruiser inter cooler for under 100$ if you look hard enough. being the front end of a PT is fairly narrow then you woulnd;t have to mess with a side mount, the super coupe has a side mount, and, honestly, fuck that shit, go front mount behind the front bumper.

honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

focinite wrote: honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

first re-programming/tuning the Diablo Sport chip takes care of the fuel map, also do you realize that the focus fuel pump is a desirable pump for boosted applications? Why do you think so many mustang guys use it? A return based system is not needed what so ever for boosted applications.

second you DO NOT NEED a different intake for boost. The stock intake will handle the boost.

Plumbing the turbo is easy, you get the feed off of the oil tap right next to the coil pack, the only hard part is either taping the block or welding a bung onto the oil pan.

With heat thats easy to, you get two high flow, low profile fans, ebay is filled with them, cheap too.

Also I don't need 300whp like Davis, this is more of a fun thing to do. I guess I have made up my mine. I'll more than likely buy the kit and give it a whirl.

Oh and if i do this setup, no way in hell I am doing a Vented to atmosphere setup. This will be stealth style turbo install.

- Josh

Jeffescortlx wrote: What's your plan for tuning? Can you re-program your Diablo Sport: Delta 3 position “Flip Chip”?
I'd tell him to keep the Intake mani, fuel rail and MAF and offer him $575 for the rest. You allready have a Pro-M MAF, and dont really "need" the fuel rail or IM.
Got any pic's? Why is it for sale?

yeeeeeah, no... I offered the manifold / fuel rail / maf housing / maf all at no additional charge, just sitting around my house collecting dust... figured he may use it

umdivx wrote:

focinite wrote:honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

first re-programming/tuning the Diablo Sport chip takes care of the fuel map, also do you realize that the focus fuel pump is a desirable pump for boosted applications? Why do you think so many mustang guys use it? A return based system is not needed what so ever for boosted applications.

second you DO NOT NEED a different intake for boost. The stock intake will handle the boost.

Plumbing the turbo is easy, you get the feed off of the oil tap right next to the coil pack, the only hard part is either taping the block or welding a bung onto the oil pan.

With heat thats easy to, you get two high flow, low profile fans, ebay is filled with them, cheap too.

Also I don't need 300whp like Davis, this is more of a fun thing to do. I guess I have made up my mine. I'll more than likely buy the kit and give it a whirl.

Oh and if i do this setup, no way in hell I am doing a Vented to atmosphere setup. This will be stealth style turbo install.

- Josh

What do you know about the mustang crowd? They are using the SVT focus fuel pumps.

You should be able to drill/tap into the skirt of your block. I have the drill and tap for 3/8" NPT.

I think when you get your car tuned, you can tell them to change the set points for your cooling fans.

Just remember, the more power you try to get out of your motor, the shorter its life.

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/aode.htm

Go 1/2 way down, the add a drain for the transmission pans, you could prob do one of those in your oil pan.

For the most part, I say do it. As long as the mani and down pipe were positioned well with no clearance problems. Is it A/C compatible?
I'm just telling you what I know, I would give the parts this "street value" for used turbo parts:
Log mani: $225-250
Used but good condition IHI: $125-165
Down pipe: $100-150.

Those are the important parts anyways.
If your gonna go through the trouble of running a intercooler, might as well get a nice FMIC. But for starters at low boost, a intercooler really is'nt that necessary.

focinite wrote: honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

You need to do a little more research. Your post reeks of mis-information. Sorry to be blunt, but damn were do you hear this stuff? The interweb?

Jeffescortlx wrote: For the most part, I say do it. As long as the mani and down pipe were positioned well with no clearance problems. Is it A/C compatible?
I'm just telling you what I know, I would give the parts this "street value" for used turbo parts:
Log mani: $225-250
Used but good condition IHI: $125-165
Down pipe: $100-150.

Those are the important parts anyways.
If your gonna go through the trouble of running a intercooler, might as well get a nice FMIC. But for starters at low boost, a intercooler really is'nt that necessary.

The Mani and DP are still new, He had chuck at Boost Factory make them, and didn't even use them once. The IHI turbo is the Subaru one I had that I then sold to him and now he's sellin back for the same price I sold it to him

Also what do you mean by AC compatable?

and I'll be getting a set of 12" x 2" deep slim line hi flow fans from ebay.

The only thing I am possibly considering is converting the setup to external WG.

As scotty I am almost positive the SVT FP is the same as the ZX3 pump. Also every single boosted person I know is still running the stock pump and isn't even close to maxing it out.


- Josh

I was told the svt flows more, but I don't know. Either way, as long as you have adequate pressure, you will be fine.

Jeffescortlx wrote:

focinite wrote:honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

You need to do a little more research. Your post reeks of mis-information. Sorry to be blunt, but damn were do you hear this stuff? The interweb?

hay to be blunt right back read the first 6 six words. i dont know if apple suace( mr banister) is still around but tell his goofy ass hi for me.

umdivx wrote:

focinite wrote:honostly, i dont know much about turboing ,but youd think that the returnless fuel system would be the way to go. its sensor is vac referanced already, and is capable of feeding up to 100 psi in stock form. the fuel pump may not be up to the task. if you need to go return style just rip the fuel system out of a cugar or a probe. but i think your just asking for problems with a home made turbo set up. even at 6 psi you have to set up a fuel map to feed the boost, you have to plumb the turbo, you get soo much extra heat. you think it would be easier to make a sheet metal intake and steal a eaton off a gtp, that way the fuel system you have will feed it, it just a matter of a program. then you get all the part throttle mpgs and the low end snort that makes it fun. plus unless you got a lsd and sticky tires you aint gonna be able to use mor than 200 at the wheels any way. but i spose you aint cool unless you got a bov......... phphpphphhhhhhoooooshshhshstweeeeeyt

first re-programming/tuning the Diablo Sport chip takes care of the fuel map, also do you realize that the focus fuel pump is a desirable pump for boosted applications? Why do you think so many mustang guys use it? A return based system is not needed what so ever for boosted applications.

second you DO NOT NEED a different intake for boost. The stock intake will handle the boost.

Plumbing the turbo is easy, you get the feed off of the oil tap right next to the coil pack, the only hard part is either taping the block or welding a bung onto the oil pan.

With heat thats easy to, you get two high flow, low profile fans, ebay is filled with them, cheap too.

Also I don't need 300whp like Davis, this is more of a fun thing to do. I guess I have made up my mine. I'll more than likely buy the kit and give it a whirl.

Oh and if i do this setup, no way in hell I am doing a Vented to atmosphere setup. This will be stealth style turbo install.

- Josh

see thats what i wanted to know thank you ..cus in my head the returnless would work great. now the fuel pump (svt/zx3...same pump, onley one part number) is ideal it will run the pressure needed no problem, but will it do it day in and day out? and yes i do know the stock intake mani(zx3) works good for FI, i was getting at what is need to hang a eaton off the side of the head( plastic is not the material of choice here) needs to have some stremph. but like i said before i dont know much about turboing. i think its my exper. wiff the turbo greasals and all the problems power strokes see. to me they seem a little sensitive for daily driving( my style of daily driving). ill stick with a blower. ....you know its like this, some guys like skinny, flashy super model girls and some like the girl next door, its all personal preff. on the road a super charger with its right now boost is a better deal, the turbo with it good efficency and higher rpm power production , seems that it would be more track bound.

You would be hard pressed to drive an m90 with a zetec, and its a lot more then just a manifold to hang it from.

sc0tty8 wrote: You would be hard pressed to drive an m90 with a zetec, and its a lot more then just a manifold to hang it from.

why must every one be soooo god damm technical, you know what im talking about....... fuckin christ!!!!!! j/k sorta im just trying to ask to find out, i may be alittle turbo cureios

Whipple > M90