DAAMMNNN!!!Im so pissed!!!!Focus JRSC BBK,Auto SUUUCCCKKKKK!

Thu May 04, 2006 3:37 pm

Your auto will rob you of at least 15 whp. Plus he's got VTAK y0!

c4uldr0n · Thu May 04, 2006 4:19 pm

lol VTAK... auto is sluggish, do you have the tune for bettering your shift points and harder shifts? that'll do it for now, can't take much to do that, I bet hitech could reprogram if you don't have this done already.

umdivx · Thu May 04, 2006 4:37 pm

What i'd say is try and get a better Torque converter, if they make one for the ATX, get the new valve body, then take the car to hitech in Ramsey, MN.

Get their chip/dyno tuning package, will set you back $500 for the chip + dyno time but well worth it if you dont have a chip as you get pretty much unlimited tuning time when you buy the chip/tune package.

Swapping to a manual might be a good option as well but will take some time and a good donor car to get all the peices you'll need.

- Josh

focinite · Thu May 04, 2006 7:47 pm

hay im in a simalar boat hear... im not boosted though.... i may have the donner car i need (HINT!!!) if you want to keep the auto i would highly rec. a converter and valve body. i want to throw a lsd and a higher final gear at mine but they dont make it for the auto, i have read that the editor of fast fords had some exstinive machine work done to his red hot chile pepper to handle the m62 and other mods they machined the trans to exsept the lsd , final gear all that crap.. its far better if your are gonna race in a straight line , but im tired of letting the computer pick what gear i should be in.

saintg2005 · Sun May 21, 2006 12:18 pm

In my experience autos suck ass! And I can say this because I own one. I dropped stage 4 cams in, headers, intake, and then i thought it was the computer so I went sith an sct chip and retuned the shift points and put on aggressive shift and a ported throttle body. NOTHING!!!! So i'm almost there I've been planning the trans swap for almost 8 months and its happening June 1st. Stage 3 Clutch 8.5 lb flywheel and final gear swap. i think that should do me well. GO WITH THE TRANS SWAP!!! SHE WILL LEARN!!!

sc0tty8 · Sun May 21, 2006 5:15 pm

saintg2005 wrote: In my experience autos suck ass! And I can say this because I own one. I dropped stage 4 cams in, headers, intake, and then i thought it was the computer so I went sith an sct chip and retuned the shift points and put on aggressive shift and a ported throttle body. NOTHING!!!! So i'm almost there I've been planning the trans swap for almost 8 months and its happening June 1st. Stage 3 Clutch 8.5 lb flywheel and final gear swap. i think that should do me well. GO WITH THE TRANS SWAP!!! SHE WILL LEARN!!!

What intake manifold are you running? Stage 4 cams? Your stock intake manifold makes jack beyond 5300rpm.

Who makes the cams you got? I know most stage 3 cams don't start their power band until 3k rpm...imo, pretty poinbtless unless you have a redline screamer and gears to pick up for what your missing on the bottom end.

Stage 3 clutch? You should be just fine with a stage 1 clutch, especially if your totally NA, and, even if you run a shot of juice. I know a stage 1 clutch by about anyone will hold you over, at the most, I would go stage 2...

focinite · Sun May 21, 2006 10:00 pm

i didnt know any one made stage 4 cams( they must be 3/4 race huh?) im funnin wit cha. youll find with a stage 3 clutch that it will have a severe on/off point that will make it horrible to drive on the street, plus most race clutches dont have spring hubs so all the force of ingagement will go through the car and axles and mounts and your neck and your teeth! i agree wit scotty if you want good ingagement and streetable a stage two2 is the route to go. to go with your cams the final gear is a good idea, a custum intake mani is a better idea, and a vave train upgrade to handle the 10,000 rpm youll need to spin the motor to see any gains from such of an aggresive cam.

sc0tty8 · Sun May 21, 2006 10:32 pm

focinite wrote: i didnt know any one made stage 4 cams( they must be 3/4 race huh?) im funnin wit cha. youll find with a stage 3 clutch that it will have a severe on/off point that will make it horrible to drive on the street, plus most race clutches dont have spring hubs so all the force of ingagement will go through the car and axles and mounts and your neck and your teeth! i agree wit scotty if you want good ingagement and streetable a stage two2 is the route to go. to go with your cams the final gear is a good idea, a custum intake mani is a better idea, and a vave train upgrade to handle the 10,000 rpm youll need to spin the motor to see any gains from such of an aggresive cam.

Stock zetec oil pump can't spin to 10k....

umdivx · Sun May 21, 2006 10:39 pm

also if your running stage 4, what valve train are you running? I know for a fact that the stock valuve train (springs, retianers, ect..) can't handel anything higher than stage 2's.

you'll be bounching shit off your valve cover soon, if you didnt upgrade the valve train. Also you running a ported, polished head? With a decked combustion chamber?

Really if your not running a modified head, and valve train its pointless to run anything higher than stage 2's

- Josh

focinite · Mon May 22, 2006 1:31 am

sc0tty8 wrote:
focinite wrote:i didnt know any one made stage 4 cams( they must be 3/4 race huh?) im funnin wit cha. youll find with a stage 3 clutch that it will have a severe on/off point that will make it horrible to drive on the street, plus most race clutches dont have spring hubs so all the force of ingagement will go through the car and axles and mounts and your neck and your teeth! i agree wit scotty if you want good ingagement and streetable a stage two2 is the route to go. to go with your cams the final gear is a good idea, a custum intake mani is a better idea, and a vave train upgrade to handle the 10,000 rpm youll need to spin the motor to see any gains from such of an aggresive cam.

Stock zetec oil pump can't spin to 10k....

yeah i know and the stock valve body in the atx cant handle a trans flush, the point is ,that mr sainting is doing the common mistake( im not ripping, im just saying, mr sainting)and throwing expensive parts in a bucket and playing yahtzee with the parts. this is a mistake that i see alot of poeple make. to make power it takes a recipe and to make durable power it takes good parts. so a plan is needed and mods should be made to compliment one another. thats all im saying. but remember its saintings car and his project, it is built for him to drive. we are only offering suggestions, mr sainting, not tyring to make fun.

sc0tty8 · Mon May 22, 2006 3:59 pm

focinite wrote: yeah i know and the stock valve body in the atx cant handle a trans flush, the point is ,that mr sainting is doing the common mistake( im not ripping, im just saying, mr sainting)and throwing expensive parts in a bucket and playing yahtzee with the parts. this is a mistake that i see alot of poeple make. to make power it takes a recipe and to make durable power it takes good parts. so a plan is needed and mods should be made to compliment one another. thats all im saying. but remember its saintings car and his project, it is built for him to drive. we are only offering suggestions, mr sainting, not tyring to make fun.

Holy shit, you can make sence

focinite · Mon May 22, 2006 4:20 pm

sc0tty8 wrote:
focinite wrote:yeah i know and the stock valve body in the atx cant handle a trans flush, the point is ,that mr sainting is doing the common mistake( im not ripping, im just saying, mr sainting)and throwing expensive parts in a bucket and playing yahtzee with the parts. this is a mistake that i see alot of poeple make. to make power it takes a recipe and to make durable power it takes good parts. so a plan is needed and mods should be made to compliment one another. thats all im saying. but remember its saintings car and his project, it is built for him to drive. we are only offering suggestions, mr sainting, not tyring to make fun.

Holy shit, you can make sence

yeah , scary aint it?